raise your hand if you’re tired and sad and wanna make out with a girl
Don’t think I don’t see you, Gen.
i really want to carry a torch in a cave just like one time
I feel like this entire sequence isn’t appreciated enough in the first film. Yes, the “hero wades into danger and rescues hundreds, proving his mettle” is a time-honored and tested trope, and thus it’s understandable that to the average movie-goer it would be brushed off as cliche — admittedly, the first time I saw the movie I dismissed it in much the same way. But Steve isn’t going after the Hydra base to save the 107th. He’s going after the Hydra base to save Bucky Barnes. The fact that he walks out with the rest of the captured men is incidental, the result of Steve’s unwavering commitment to do good, to do the best he can. When he breaks the rest of the men out, his first question isn’t whether they’re alright, or how they can get out — it’s where’s Sargent Barnes? The moment that goes on to define Captain America, even in the present-day Smithsonian exhibit, isn’t just a show of selfless bravery — it’s a show of love, of complete, total, and utter devotion.
Steve’s “death,” days — at most weeks — after Bucky’s in the Alps, is an echo of this same situation. Before this moment, Steve didn’t want to kill anyone: he didn’t like bullies, and he wanted them stopped. The first time Steve Rogers considers killing to be its own reward is after Bucky’s death, and he takes down Hydra, destroys Schmidt’s plans, ultimately puts that bird in the water, in a grief-stricken rage over the loss of his best friend.
I think possibly the most telling moment in Cap 2 is when Steve tells Fury they’re not just destroying Hydra, but they’re taking down all of SHIELD — that nothing will be salvaged, that complete annihilation is the game plan. The very first thing that Fury says to him, when confronted with a Captain America who wants to destroy America’s security apparatus? I didn’t know about Barnes. He doesn’t even have to think about it — he knows immediately what this is about. The last time Steve lost Bucky Barnes, he took down Hydra, dying himself in the process. Confronted with Bucky’s loss a second time over, Steve stands to take out SHIELD in his memory — and just like the first time, there’s nothing on hell or earth that’s going to stop him.
I just got around to seeing this movie, despite the fact that it did not get a wide-release.
Find it and watch it.
Believe me when I say, this film is in the same league of sci-fi/speculative film classics as Bladerunner and Children of Men.
Should have a HUGE fandom.
It deals with issues like class, caste-systems, oppression, and the nature of humanity in a way mainstream films like The Hunger Games never could.
Let me tell you a story about the film-maker Joon-Ho Bong. Some years back, I had the privilege of attending a screening of one his films and the man happened to be there. At that time, he’d already gotten some notice for making The Host, another awesome film that allegorizes heavy issues in humanity.
So, he does the q&a at the end and someone asks him why he’s never produced a Hollywood movie.
…And he says, paraphrasing; that Hollywood would never let him make the kind of movies he’d like. He’d have to hire an all-white cast and the actors would have to fit a certain aesthetic. They couldn’t be non-white, older than twenty-five, or non-thin…especially actresses.
He said, it’s not worth selling out, when he can make the kinds of movies he wants in South Korea.
…And then he makes this.
I’d love to spoil it for you, but suffice it say it was, as all good speculative sci-fi is, very effecting for me.
Again, I beg you PLEASE SEE THIS MOVIE.
And if you need more convincing??
Your faves are in it: Octavia Spencer aka the above flawless actress in the poster, Chris Evans, Tilda Swinton, Jamie Bell, John Hurt, Ed Harris and the father/daughter pair from The Host, Kang-So Hung and Ah-Sung Ko (which had me thinking AU!).
Now, I shall commence spamming my tumblr with Snowpiercer reblogs…
Apologies ahead of time.
I love you, and also -
I guess part of the ‘comic book logic’ thing is like… would advanced healing target the dead neurons and see scar tissue as part of the injury?
As in, in the beginning the damage is quick and absolute - hey, maybe why the brainwashing and obedience training was so damn effective - but the over time it starts trying to heal the scar tissue itself? (Super Soldiers don’t scar that easily, right? Is that just a fandom thing, that their scars fade?) And it forms new neural connections? Like, over time? So they wipe him again?
Which would also explain why he is literally physically able to take the abuse they dole out to his brain.
IDK I WAS HAVE AN ARTS DEGREE OKAY
Putting aside COMIC BOOK LOGIC for a sec, is there anything you could tell us about seeing a familiar sight/a trigger like Steve could start bringing in the flashbacks, or is that all very hand-wavey?
rosalui ilu too bb
Wow some food for thought here.
Using my knowledge of fanon, I would agree with you. There would be some form of inhibitory process that allowed neurons to keep repairing themselves before the oligodendrocytes came in to eat the damaged bits and form scar tissue.
As far as memory triggers go? Brain damage, as a rule, never adds anything. It only subtracts. So I would say it is INCREDIBLY UNLIKELY (caps necessary) that in any real-world scenario Bucky would be able to “regain” his memories. Maybe some scent cues would call things back up. He may distantly remember his childhood. But other than that it’s not very possible at all, as far as I’m aware right now. Anterograde amnesia that results from traumatic brain injury doesn’t go away. Ever.
HOWEVER. Because I really love Bucky (more than I love chocolate and french fries) I handwave that shit. Comic book logic says it’s possible for him to remember all the things and so I accept it. Because I want Bucky to be whole and happy— or at least happy if he can’t be whole. So yeah there’s that.
Everyone bow down.
Doctor Who is no longer my fave TV show and you have no idea how sad that makes me
okay but can you imagine like
a week after your truck gets stolen out of the goddamn mall parking lot, you get a knock on the door and there’s fucking Captain America standing there. Says he’s here about your goddamn truck. And for a moment you wonder if he started working for the police now that Shield took a dive, but you don’t say so, you just nod when he describes your truck to you, license plate number, make, model and color, all to a tee.
And then the weirdest thing happens (weirder than Captain America just showing up at your front door). Captain America starts looking bashful. And then he tells you your truck was lost ‘in the line of duty’. You must still look a little awestruck because he elaborates; he’s the one who took your truck.
Captain America fucking stole your goddamn truck out of the goddamn mall parking lot.
And he’s going to pay for a new one. And he’s very, very sorry.
Is this permament?